October 18, 2016

The Debate between the Cult of Never Trump and the Rest of Us

You find yourself in a world where the coming election is between a crazy old cat lady, an old hippie, Hitler and Mussolini....
Imagine if someone came up to you are said “I’m Susan Wright and my principles prevent me from voting Mussolini, even though I know Hitler will murder millions, so I’m voting for the goofy hippie guy.” You would have dark thoughts about that person. They are willing to stand aside and allow something truly horrible just so they can avoid doing something unpleasant. To make it worse, they demand that you pretend that their cowardice and treachery is high minded.

Further, you would look at those people investing all of their energy ridiculing Mussolini as pro-Hitler partisans. After all, the successful end of the efforts can only mean one thing – Hitler wins. They could protest all they like that they hate both Hitler and Mussolini, but you would know them by their deeds. They are working to pave the way for Hitler, regardless of their reasoning. If successful, they would be, in part, responsible for what comes next. Blood would be on their hands and you would feel justified in holding them responsible.

Alternatively, if someone came up to you and made the case for Hitler, along with pointing out the faults of Mussolini, you would not feel the urge to punch them in the face. They may be horribly mistaken, but at least they are being honest. They are pro-Hitler and they take responsibility for it. They own it. Who knows, they could be right and Mussolini is worse in the long run. In theory, at least, you can debate this with the Hitler fans and maybe in the process sway some undecided voters to your side. - - - Pink State | The Z Blog

Posted by gerardvanderleun at October 18, 2016 4:25 PM
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"They are willing to stand aside and allow something truly horrible just so they can avoid doing something unpleasant."

Well, when you frame it that way.

But you don't.

You just get to make your best impression of the main stream media, and become mostly irrelevant.

the last sane man

Posted by: ghostsniper at October 18, 2016 5:50 PM

The argument against Trump is that he's an uncouth loudmouth. What farking country did these people grow up in?

This smacks of High School politics.

As Trump gets more and more blowback from the ruling elite, I want him to win even more. I want him to make ever bigger gaffs, just to savor the way that tastes.

Posted by: Casey Klahn at October 18, 2016 8:28 PM

When the hell did Mussolini become a good guy who can be used in an argument against Hitler?

Most of us never Trump people harp on Clintons faults all the time, THAT DOES NOT MAKE TRUMP A VIABLE OPTION. He is also a horrible old liberal/progressive, ie , worthless. He says whatever he has to to keep you with him, just like Hillary says whatever she has to to keep hers. He has to have you when Trump tv starts.

Which is what this whole campaign was about. You've been duped. No one runs a campaign like this if he gives two shits about winning it. No ground game, hardly any campaign offices and where is all that money of his own he was going to spend? If I thought he actually wanted to win, I might vote for him but he doesn't, again you've been duped.

But that happens, people get duped, I've been duped, do not reward him by paying to watch Trump TV.

Posted by: Alleged Accomplice at October 24, 2016 5:13 PM