Why look at reality when the diversity BS smells so good?
500,000 throng L.A. to protest immigrant legislation
FLAGS AS SEEN IN THE STREET and as portrayed by the media: Mikey Kaus reports, Flags: Evenly split between Mexican and U.S., with El Salvadoran running a very distant (1%) third. And there were lots of flags. If you said "Mexican flag" every time you saw a Mexican flag, you never stopped talking."
And one of my email correspondents, Ole Eichhorn , also notes: "What is interesting -- amazing, really -- is that all MSM accounts of this protest rally show American flags. However I was there (by accident, my daughter and I attended a Saturday-morning performance of the L.A.Philharmonic at the Disney concert hall downtown), and I can tell you there were just as many Mexican flags. While the predominant language on the signs was English, the predominant language spoken in the crowd was Spanish.
There is some kind of weird plot to ignore what is really happening here."
To which I'd note it is not really weird at all, but simply the natural behavior of those who, as part of their deepest secular religious beliefs, hold that there is no such thing as too much diversity ... especially if those diversity representatives can be counted on to vote Democratic.
As is obvious to anybody who has lived in California in the last 20 years, giving Mexican illegals essential immunity from any repercussions, along with a mound of benefits, is just the California Democrats' way of making fresh little Democrats.
Indeed, illegal immigration throughout the country is one of the Party's few sources of new Democrats now that the faithful are not reproducing at a level that would replace those dying off.
Getting illegals in and then, over time legitimizing them (to say nothing of the fact that any children born to them are legal at birth), gives the California Democrats something they would not otherwise have, a future.
Of course, like all multicultural zealots, it is easy for them to overplay their hand as, I think, is the case with these mammoth demonstrations. It is one thing for citizens, natural or legitimately naturalized, to have a nagging sense that the border with Mexico is a "Come as you are, stay as long as you like, and if caught, come back real soon now" fiesta. It is quite another to see the problem appear in massive street demonstrations where Mexifornia is made manifest.
A number statement, "7,000,000 illegals," is really just an abstraction. Pictures and videos of 500,000 in downtown Los Angeles is quite another. This may well be seen, in retrospect, as the moment when the abstract policies of politicians were seen by the people as what they are, "bad baloney," and that the people -- always slow to alarm and anger en masse -- decided, "Enough is enough. In fact, it's too much."
What high-profile moments like this accomplish for the boosters of "Wide-Open Borders" is dubious at best. Like all big block parties, they feel great while they're going on, but the morning after is not always quite so pixilating. The crowds, as large as they were, were not large enough to wield real political clout on a national level. They were large enough to get many, many people to understand that a policy that promotes limitless exclaves** within the nation promises only the ultimate expunging of the nation that harbors and succors them. Europe is already looking like a vast lot of "Pre-Owned Nations" up for sale to the biggest bidders. I don't think the United States is going to want to join them.
I'm sure yesterday's transcontinental Por Favor Fiestas were fun and "empowering," but I think it might have been better for Mexico and the Democrats to have kept their little border fiddles on the down-low. You'd think a media and a Party chock full of people who had read and loved The Tipping Point would get that. But they don't. They never do.
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** "Exclaves:" For more on these contemporary parasitic communities, see Francis Poretto's seminal essay, Exclaves , at the always stimulating Eternity Road.
I say send in the scoops.
Posted by: Detective Thorn at March 26, 2006 4:21 PMNo, it's better that the rally was out in the open and massive as its powerful imagery will change a lot of minds.
I wonder how Mexicans would feel if millions of Americans started sneaking into their country.
We see here the results of policies that first became visible in the late Nineties, when the Clinton Administration began mailing voter identification cards to known illegals by the thousands.
As horrifying as it is to say, we must now admit that the Democrats resolved to give the country away if that would help them to get and retain power. If the Republicans, for whatever reason, assist in that effort, there will shortly no longer be a United States. MEChA's dream of "Aztlan" rejoined to Mexico might well be within their grasp.
Re: " few sources of new Democrats now that the faithful are not reproducing at a level that would replace those dying off."
Actually, they almost do -- but then go on to have abortions. The percentages of votes keeping Democrats out of
office are the proportion of aborted people who didn't grow up to vote.
One might wonder back across all the years of Republican hand-wringing but yet total
inaction in the matter if this wasn't understood as a dynamic long ago.
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Posted by: Jiyu at March 27, 2006 2:41 AMVoting a straight Republican ticket in November. Those crowds sure looked like Democrats to me.
Voting for the Republican candidate in 2008 too - that candidate will take a tougher stance than Bush on immigration.
Posted by: xixi at March 27, 2006 7:24 AMRaw, you've got a good point but you have it backwards. Mexicans would rightfully laugh at any Americans stupid enough to "sneak" into Mexico to live as locals. What we could do that would hurt, and make a point, is stop going to the tourist and retiree enclaves.
Depriving the socialist government of Mexico of our dollars would make conditions worse and hasten the day when Mexicans realize that their problem is not discrimination by Americans, it is mismanagement by their own government.
Mexico is rich in resources and could be a prosperous society. Of course then American honeymooners and divorced American men looking for a financial haven and teen-aged household/sex workers at bargain prices would be unhappy. We just can't have everything.
Now that's a data point.
Posted by: Gerard Van der Leun at March 27, 2006 11:26 AMI predict that, within 10 years, the southwestern United States will be referred to as "occupied territory" by the Mexicans.
Posted by: rickl at March 27, 2006 6:37 PMrickl:
It already is. I got caught in that mess trying to attend a concert at the Music Center--which I could not get to. Easily 80% of the flags were the flag of Mexico. And more than 90% of the protest signs were in spanish.
I was most amazed at the number of signs--the density was incredible. There must have been one for ever four people meaning that there were at least 100,000 signs printed and distributed, making me wonder who the hell was bankrolling this thing. This was no get-together, but a well-organized and well-funded event. I am seriously wondering if the dough came from Bushs'good friend south of the border, Vincente Fox. It is a questsion that musts be answered so we know who we're up against.
Posted by: MarkH at March 27, 2006 6:59 PMThe Left continues to ignore the consequences of inaction.
Posted by: Frank at March 27, 2006 8:19 PMOmyl Frank.Left is initiator of this all.
Raw Data:yeah I was there 6 months.Difference is in flow of greenbacks.With millions of Gringos coming into Mex.,bilions of greenbacks follow stream of Gringos.
Posted by: Karel IV at March 27, 2006 8:36 PM In my opinion this law goes too far. Surely immigration is a problem, but this is not the best way to adress it. You cannot make a law that punish those who help the immmigrants. It's just so cruel. Even more when it comes from politicians that in most cases are Christians. The immigrants are humans beings like us, and reserve a little repsect. Do not forget that for them is not easy to leave everything back home and try to find a better future here. A future that is uncertain and can cost their lives. I am not saying we must let everyobdy into the U.S. That will not help. I am just saying that we mut try to understand the immigrants. They are not the ones to blame. The presidents of their countries are in most cases the ones to blame. Corruption is stopping the development in their countries. Actually most of them do not have a real democracy like the U.S.
Jaime, when I first saw news stories of these demonstrations, I felt that we really need to do something to help the people who come here to find a better future, because they would be poverty-stricken in their own country. If they want to be productive citizens who want to work, own homes, and send their kids to school, why shoudn't we welcome them?
And then I saw the Mecha types. The "you're on our land" howlers. The whiners who blame the US govt and Americans for not doing enough, when they should be blaming the Mexican govt. And like many Americans, I suspect, seeing these people on TV, I thought, you can F.O.A.D. Your land, my ass.
Mexicans and Mexican-Americans would do well to loudly and quickly condemn these groups.
Posted by: ak at March 28, 2006 2:17 PM
I'm sick of all this garbage and all these "solutions." The only thing that is broken is the government, past and current, unwilllingness to enforce laws that are already on the books.
Posted by: MarkH at March 28, 2006 2:28 PMAk you are right. I totally agree with you. Wonder how will this conflict end.
Posted by: Jaime at March 28, 2006 5:57 PMOh, please, all you xenophobes are recycling stuff straight out of the 19-teens. I'm third-generation Italian (American, thank you) and that's how you all used to talk about my forbears who came over hear trying to wiggle out of being slave-wage cannon fodder. They happily mopped your floors and took care of your brats and dug your trenches and cleaned your toilets and lived in your tenements. And then the next generation printed your newspapers and wedding invitations and fought Hitler and Mussolini and swung grappling hooks on your docks and bought houses in your crappiest neighborhoods. Then my generation, well, some of us got into Ivy League schools and now we're ruling the country, hahahahaha!!!!
Oh, but wait! I don't see anyone freaking out over WHITE Russian or Polish immigrants...hmmmm, is it that the Mexican and other Latin American immigrants are a little too -er- brown for your taste? Do you seriously think they're trying to reproduce the institutions and political culture of Mexico over here? Give me a break. They don't like the *mordita* any more than you do.
Watch out for immigrants! We get from the bathroom to the boardroom in three short generations!
Posted by: Anne at April 15, 2006 7:06 AMIt would have been two if you could distinguish the difference between an argument over "quality," which this is not, and an argument over "quantity," which this is. If anything, the statement of "they are all fine, good people" is one you find dominates the discussion. The question is, as it was not three generations ago, who, but when and how and how many.
It would seem that the answer to that is "not every day, not illegally, and not millions." Not everything is done out of racism, no matter how much your mind may insist and insist and insist on it. Indeed, the defaulting to an obsessional answer to any social question is a problem that bears examination.
Posted by: Gerard Van der Leun at April 15, 2006 8:17 AM
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